Go get’em! The left and right both use underhanded tactics to get ahead. In this case, bringing non citizens into the voting ranks undermines U.S. democracy and legal citizens of the U.S. Please expose any illegal act carried out by Oregon government.
ChatGPT suggested the redacted portion may read something like:
Naturalization certificates and consular birth documents are not included in automated verification and may require manual handling ← [Redacted content likely similar to this]
Thanks, Philip! I hadn't thought of running it through AI because I'm old. This seems plausible, and would be among the more innocent, if baffling, redaction explanations.
You're welcome. I post the idea to see how well the AI can predict what is redacted. Interesting that you didn't use AI due to age - I use it because I am becoming better at discerning than researching. I trust the AI but always try to verify that its sources match the content and conclusion. My post was the first time I'd thought to use AI in a reverse type of way. It would be verified over time as the actual redacted words are revealed. I see no reason for the redaction other than embarrassment to Democrats at this point.
Great question. I’m not sure what it could be…and I have no idea why they’d need to redact an entire line(s) from this document.
Another source of data not on their list (unless it’s on another page you have) is ERIC, which I find interesting given that Oregon taxpayers spend tens of thousands of dollars on access to this (unnecessary) database.
In light of the State being sued by Judicial Watch and the Federal Dept. of Justice involvement, I'm guessing AG Rayfield and SoS Read are feeling a bit nervous and not wanting to talk elections and voter rolls right now.
Oregon voter rolls must be placed back in the control of the County Clerks. Centralized elections are ripe for fraud. This also ties in with the census and future representation.
Your inquiry Mr. Eager, is much larger than a 'simple' redaction.. and who the next dog catcher is. Yes, pursue the request, and post the give-send-go link, I'm in.
Thanks, Connie! This is a good hypothesis, and one I hadn't thought of. I did a little research on ERIC when this story broke last year, and there are some really interesting Oregon connections. Possible the state considered using it and didn't and doesn't want public to know. ERIC was started by Pew Charitable Trusts, which is really interesting.
Specific details about the scope or number of noncitizens registered beyond the known 1,259 (as of late 2024), especially if new figures emerged that could escalate public or political scrutiny.
Internal discussions or strategies on how to handle the situation, possibly including advice from lobbyists or external groups, as suggested by sentiment on X about a briefing from a left-leaning nonprofit.
Identification of additional data sources or methods used to verify citizenship that the office might not want publicized, perhaps due to legal, technical, or political sensitivities.
Acknowledgment of errors, delays, or miscommunications (e.g., the six-week gap in reporting to the Secretary of State) that could reflect poorly on the administration's oversight.
Thanks, Donna! They included the actual briefing from the lefty nonprofit in the unredacted portion of the notes, so I doubt it's related to that. Very likely it's something Kotek's office doesn't want public!
So much for the most secure elections ever, according to the feds, we all knew it was a lie from the beginning. Well, anybody wit half a brain knew that there would be a lot of fake ballots and dead people voting, because that’s the modus operandi of the Democrat party. The only way Dems can win is by cheating.
The Freedom Foundation has a strong presence in Oregon, with an office located at 724 Hawthorne Ave NE, Salem, OR 97301. They also maintain headquarters in Olympia, Washington, and have expanded nationally to operate in all 50 states.
As for whether they’d take on a case involving non–U.S. citizens being registered to vote in Oregon, it’s very likely they’d be interested. The Foundation is known for its aggressive litigation and advocacy around election integrity, government transparency, and union-related issues. In fact, they’ve previously launched campaigns and lawsuits in response to voter registration errors and public policy concerns.
Recent reports revealed that over 1,200 noncitizens were mistakenly added to Oregon’s voter rolls due to DMV data entry errors, and at least 10 of them voted. This has sparked political outcry and calls for investigation, especially from Republican lawmakers and candidates.
Given the Foundation’s mission to challenge what they view as unconstitutional or unlawful government actions, and their history of filing lawsuits in Oregon, they may be open to supporting or initiating legal action related to this issue.
after all that verbiage...blackout that, redact this, 3 page notes, conference call..1,739 seems like an absurdly LOW number to deep dive and squabble over. Probably MUCH HIGHER NUMBER! keep it simple:what is the law?... fortunately the tide is rising for opposition to one party rule in Oregon...this is just exhibit A in a tiny case
Jeff, I think we need to focus on more immediate examples of gross incompetence. Multnomah County Central Library which recently reopened after a $12 million renovation was the site of a shooting last Tuesday that resulted in the death of a person. The Oregonian describes the library: “Safety has long been an issue at the downtown branch, a gathering place for the city’s homeless population and a hot spot for drug use. The flagship branch has struggled with overdoses, and librarians there and elsewhere have reported feeling unsafe at work in the past.” Business owners say the library is a blight on the surrounding neighborhood. WHAT A F—-ING DISASTER!
Go get’em! The left and right both use underhanded tactics to get ahead. In this case, bringing non citizens into the voting ranks undermines U.S. democracy and legal citizens of the U.S. Please expose any illegal act carried out by Oregon government.
ChatGPT suggested the redacted portion may read something like:
Naturalization certificates and consular birth documents are not included in automated verification and may require manual handling ← [Redacted content likely similar to this]
Thanks, Philip! I hadn't thought of running it through AI because I'm old. This seems plausible, and would be among the more innocent, if baffling, redaction explanations.
You're welcome. I post the idea to see how well the AI can predict what is redacted. Interesting that you didn't use AI due to age - I use it because I am becoming better at discerning than researching. I trust the AI but always try to verify that its sources match the content and conclusion. My post was the first time I'd thought to use AI in a reverse type of way. It would be verified over time as the actual redacted words are revealed. I see no reason for the redaction other than embarrassment to Democrats at this point.
an interesting use of AI. I wonder how that might sit in the courtroom.
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!"
Good luck with this.
Great question. I’m not sure what it could be…and I have no idea why they’d need to redact an entire line(s) from this document.
Another source of data not on their list (unless it’s on another page you have) is ERIC, which I find interesting given that Oregon taxpayers spend tens of thousands of dollars on access to this (unnecessary) database.
I think you are on to something re: ERIC, Connie.
In light of the State being sued by Judicial Watch and the Federal Dept. of Justice involvement, I'm guessing AG Rayfield and SoS Read are feeling a bit nervous and not wanting to talk elections and voter rolls right now.
Oregon voter rolls must be placed back in the control of the County Clerks. Centralized elections are ripe for fraud. This also ties in with the census and future representation.
Your inquiry Mr. Eager, is much larger than a 'simple' redaction.. and who the next dog catcher is. Yes, pursue the request, and post the give-send-go link, I'm in.
Thanks, SPH!
Thanks, Connie! This is a good hypothesis, and one I hadn't thought of. I did a little research on ERIC when this story broke last year, and there are some really interesting Oregon connections. Possible the state considered using it and didn't and doesn't want public to know. ERIC was started by Pew Charitable Trusts, which is really interesting.
Thank you for using your expertise and time to dive into this important issue in Oregon!
Your guess is as good as mine, but whatever they're hiding with the redaction will hurt them.
Might it be Armed Services verification? Though I don't know why that would be redacted?
Good guess! That'd be a pretty innocent explanation, because who cares if they reviewed that database or considered doing it and didn't.
It wouldn't be private info specific to a person, would it? Like "call Brian 312/234-1234
Hadn't thought of that, but it's entirely possible. Thanks, OregonB!
Specific details about the scope or number of noncitizens registered beyond the known 1,259 (as of late 2024), especially if new figures emerged that could escalate public or political scrutiny.
Internal discussions or strategies on how to handle the situation, possibly including advice from lobbyists or external groups, as suggested by sentiment on X about a briefing from a left-leaning nonprofit.
Identification of additional data sources or methods used to verify citizenship that the office might not want publicized, perhaps due to legal, technical, or political sensitivities.
Acknowledgment of errors, delays, or miscommunications (e.g., the six-week gap in reporting to the Secretary of State) that could reflect poorly on the administration's oversight.
Grok came up with this for the redacted part.
Thanks, Donna! They included the actual briefing from the lefty nonprofit in the unredacted portion of the notes, so I doubt it's related to that. Very likely it's something Kotek's office doesn't want public!
So much for the most secure elections ever, according to the feds, we all knew it was a lie from the beginning. Well, anybody wit half a brain knew that there would be a lot of fake ballots and dead people voting, because that’s the modus operandi of the Democrat party. The only way Dems can win is by cheating.
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The Freedom Foundation has a strong presence in Oregon, with an office located at 724 Hawthorne Ave NE, Salem, OR 97301. They also maintain headquarters in Olympia, Washington, and have expanded nationally to operate in all 50 states.
As for whether they’d take on a case involving non–U.S. citizens being registered to vote in Oregon, it’s very likely they’d be interested. The Foundation is known for its aggressive litigation and advocacy around election integrity, government transparency, and union-related issues. In fact, they’ve previously launched campaigns and lawsuits in response to voter registration errors and public policy concerns.
Recent reports revealed that over 1,200 noncitizens were mistakenly added to Oregon’s voter rolls due to DMV data entry errors, and at least 10 of them voted. This has sparked political outcry and calls for investigation, especially from Republican lawmakers and candidates.
Given the Foundation’s mission to challenge what they view as unconstitutional or unlawful government actions, and their history of filing lawsuits in Oregon, they may be open to supporting or initiating legal action related to this issue.
after all that verbiage...blackout that, redact this, 3 page notes, conference call..1,739 seems like an absurdly LOW number to deep dive and squabble over. Probably MUCH HIGHER NUMBER! keep it simple:what is the law?... fortunately the tide is rising for opposition to one party rule in Oregon...this is just exhibit A in a tiny case
Sue
I'm gonna guess driver's licenses themselves, particularly when handed out like candy.
Jeff, I think we need to focus on more immediate examples of gross incompetence. Multnomah County Central Library which recently reopened after a $12 million renovation was the site of a shooting last Tuesday that resulted in the death of a person. The Oregonian describes the library: “Safety has long been an issue at the downtown branch, a gathering place for the city’s homeless population and a hot spot for drug use. The flagship branch has struggled with overdoses, and librarians there and elsewhere have reported feeling unsafe at work in the past.” Business owners say the library is a blight on the surrounding neighborhood. WHAT A F—-ING DISASTER!